Bringing Bordoodle puppies and families together!
The Two Smartest Dog Breeds
F2b Bordoodles are 62.5% Poodle and 37.5% Border Collie, F3 or Multi-Gene Bordoodles are 67.5% Poodle and 32.5% Border Collie, they are mainly called Bordoodle, Borderdoodle, Border Doodle, Border-Doodle, Borderpoo, Borpoo, Borpoodle, BorderPoodle, Border Collie Poodle mix, or Collie Poodle Mix. with breeders striving for them to be called Bordoodle. They are the perfect mix of the two smartest breeds of dogs, and may easily surpass their ancestors and become the smartest breed once recognized by the American Kennel Club. These Bordoodle combinations, offer those of us lucky enough to have them, Border Collie intelligence, agility and performance potential, while embracing the sensitivity, cuddly love, and keen emotional intelligence of the Poodle.
Plus you can now have that Border Collie you wanted but couldn't have with kids because they might herd them. Our F2b and F3 Bordoodles absolutely adore kids and they are the best kind of puppy to have with kids. Our Bordoodles pick the kids first and they don't herd them, so no nipping at the heels to worry about.
I am blown away and amazed with this breed and I don't just say so because I breed them. I love all animals and I in no way feel any breed is superior to another, and I in no way feel any dog is not smart. Bordoodles are just a different kind of smart, and it's difficult to explain until you have your own Bordoodle. Having a Poodle or a Border Collie that is purebred isn't the same either. It's similar but unless you have or have had both breeds it's different. Having other Bordoodle generations is similar but its also still not the same as an F2b or F3 Bordoodle. The most similar thing I can liken the breed to, after having both breeds and generations, is us. They are most similar to humans. This is in intelligence and not abilities. So that means emotions, understanding and requirements.
They have happiness, they have sadness, they show displeasure, they feel left out. They require comfort, they require apologies, they require reassurance. They require gentle guidance and find their joy by being a part of their family. They feel your pain, they can cry with you, and they run to you when you're sad in hopes of comforting you. They feel your anger and hang their heads in shame afraid it was them that caused it. They look into your eyes for guidance and read your body language for what they should do next. They learn sentences and know what you are saying, they listen to a new request you ask of them and do as you ask without ever being taught to do so. They get better with age but it starts much earlier than most breeds. They can help you in your tasks without you having ever needed their help. They are inquisitive and nosy and will stand by your side through everything you do. They will make sure the kids get up when they're supposed to and they will abandon you to be with kids known or new. They will be eager to see everyone after you have been away and make sure to show you how unhappy they were to be left behind. They will question newcomers and they will either approve of them or not. They will protect you with every ounce of their being and defend their home with pride. They are more than amazing, they are absolutely incredible, and when you have them in your life you will quickly see why.
Our Bordoodle's Non Shedding, don't fade, and are Hypoallergenic Potential
The F2b and F3 Bordoodle offers a hypoallergenic non shedding dog. It is a big priority to us that our puppies are non shed and that is why we moved past breeding F1 pups as all F1 Bordoodles will have some shedding and cannot genetically be considered hypoallergenic.
All F2b and F3 Bordoodle puppies bred here at Mile High Bordoodles are silky coated, (no course Terrier like coats) and are non shed, they all also have a breed standard doodle look. Mickey and our girls have yet to have a single even slightly shedding puppy.
Mile High puppies very rarely fade. Most Bordoodles fade as this is a dominant poodle trait but we are lucky enough to have our breeders come from poodles that haven't faded. As you can see with Mickey and Charley. We have had some black go mixed black and silver and we have had one red and white loose some red to white. Our pups might get lighter but they don't turn white or a completely different color. This is something we strive for with our pups and in our breeding so you don't have a completely different dog later.
Are you allergic to dogs? Looking for a dog that doesn't cause an allergic reaction? Mile High Bordoodles has still found successful placement of even our past very low shed puppies in severe allergy prone homes. (We do encourage non shed only for allergy sufferers.) Only the F1b Bordoodle or future generations F2b and beyond, F3, F4, etc... can offer a hypoallergenic dog.
Bordoodle Service and Training Potential
Mile High Bordoodles has found great success in placing puppies and families together that are in need of them becoming a companion animal or to be trained for service outside of the home. Bordoodles are the best puppies for kids and the best puppies to own. From alert dogs for medical conditions, to being a support dog for specific individuals with autism or anxiety, to being trained to go into hospitals and give comfort to those needing it. With a the huge added bonus of being non shedding. Our F2b and F3 Bordoodle pups are exceptionally aware, they are all capable of obtaining these goals, and our breeders are all non hyper dogs that pass on these calmer traits to their puppies. Training comes quick to them, they just get it, we have had trainers and vets that have been greatly impressed by our F2b and F3 Bordoodle's quick grasp of learning and laid back personalities.
F1 - The F1 Bordoodle is 50% Poodle and 50% Border Collie. They are bred from a full blooded AKC Poodle and AKC Border Collie. They offer shedding, low shed, and very low shed coats that are corse to soft. They generally tend to be more like the Border Collie, being work oriented and having a higher herding instinct. They are sometimes loving but very independent and very smart. Mile High Bordoodle Dams that produce our F2b puppies are F1 Bordoodles.
F1b - The F1b Bordoodle is 75% Poodle and 25% Border Collie (the b standing for being bred back to a full blooded Poodle). They are bred from a full blooded AKC Poodle and an F1 Bordoodle. They offer non shed to low shed coats that are silky and soft. They generally tend to be more like the Poodle, sensitive to emotion and having sensitive feelings. They are very smart but can get their feelings hurt and make it clear if they like you or not, they are very loving and cuddly. They do not have Border Collie determination to work, but do seem to gain a bit more agility than a full blooded Poodle. Mile High Bordoodles Sire is an F1b Bordoodle.
F2b - The F2b Bordoodle is a next generation Bordoodle, they are 62.5% Poodle and 37.5% Border Collie. This generation is locking in the breed standard, and the generation moving toward AKC recognition. They are bred from an F1 Bordoodle and an F1b Bordoodle (the b still stands because their bloodlines have been bred back). They offer non shed to very low shed coats that are silky or soft. They generally tend to be a perfect blend of the Poodle and Border Collie, they can work if asked while also having a more sensitive side. They are lovable and cuddly like a Poodle and they are quick witted and agile like the Border Collie. Our litters offer varying personalities in this and can match based on what you desire or need more. Currently only Mile High Bordoodles breeds strictly F2b next generation or F3 multi-gene Bordoodles all from AKC bloodlines.
F3 - Our F3 Bordoodles are 32.5% Border Collie and 67.5% Poodle. This is a multi-gene Bordoodle as it is now a multiple generation puppy. This generation will continue to lock in the breed standard and move toward AKC recognition. Our F3 pups are bred from an F1b Bordoodle stud and F2b Bordoodle Dams. They offer non shed, hypoallergenic coats. All coats are silky. They generally tend to be a perfect blend of the Poodle and Border Collie, they can work if asked while also having a more sensitive side. They are lovable and cuddly like a Poodle and they are quick witted and agile like the Border Collie. Our litters offer varying personalities in this and can match based on what you desire or need more. Currently only Mile High Bordoodles breeds strictly F2b next generation and F3 multi-gene Bordoodles all from AKC bloodlines.
F4, F5, F6 and so on - These Bordoodle generations continue to lock in the multi generational Poodle and Border Collie breed standard working toward AKC recognition. They are able to be bred from two like Bordoodles, F2b to F2b and so on. AKC recognition can happen sometime after the F8 generation. This takes many years and breeders working together to get there. There are no Bordoodle breeders breeding these generations.
We receive many questions regarding the generations and genetics for our puppies and we have done extensive research into which direction is best to go in order to properly further the Bordoodle breed into the best possible puppies for our future Mile High Bordoodle families.
Before we began this journey we were lucky enough to have a daughter studying this exact thing in her high school IB program biology class. There seems to be some confusion out there and a couple of other websites seeming to be confused regarding the combination of Bordoodle or doodles in general, and what label or number they should or should not receive. Scientifically you can label a next generation Bordoodle F2 or F2b either way, there is no wrong or right way with which way a breeder chooses to go on this. Although an F2 is typically from an F1 Sire and Dam. Then an F2b is from a F1 and F1b Sire and Dam. The F1b has been bred back which means the F2b still has this breeding within it's line. The F3 or multigene or multiple generation works the same way, labelled as a breeder chooses.
There are many breeders with this exact information on their doodle sites for your own research but don't let the labelling fool you. There is no wrong or right way. We produce phenomenal puppies as seen in our puppy pictures and videos, so if you are unsure of which generation is best for you look at the shine in the coat and the conformation of the puppy or puppy parents. We are the first Bordoodle breeder to not only have next generation Bordoodle puppies but to only have next generation Bordoodle puppies. It can be scary signing up for a puppy online and not seeing us in person beforehand and not meeting the breeding pair. I have four rules that I tell anyone who asks about what to look for from a breeder.
-First, they are dedicated to one breed, this is huge, as you should be getting the best of the breed you decide to have. We breed only Bordoodles because we adore them, to us they are the best anyone can ask for and we only breed because of them. Otherwise we would not be breeding at all.
-Second, they have all their dogs living with them as pets in their home (meaning it's not money driven breeding but for the love of the Dam and Sire just as much as their puppies) think of how many litters and dams they have and count them. We have six dogs, in the house with us, besides keeping a couple of girl pups in the future to cycle in as our older girls retire we will not have more than six to seven in total. We can give them all love and attention every single day and make sure they are cared for and doing great. More than that then likely they aren't really in their house with them. Others can take great care of breeding dogs as well, and I have had puppy families that offer to keep our pups intact for us to utilize down the road but we thank them and kindly pass. Every moment of pregnancy and being their for our girls makes our puppies the best they can possibly be, rubbing our Dams bellies and holding them as they lay in our lap and let us rub their belly is a gift we cherish and a huge part of why we bring new puppies into the world. Being there to soothe their fears and make them feel safe is ongoing even after the first litter. Just as a child would look up to their parents so do our Bordoodles, they are just that smart. Watching how excited Mickey, our Sire, is to see his babies and how much he loves them, and that he knows they are his, just brings things full circle with all of us here together all of the time.
- Third, they talk to you on the phone if you call and in length.
- Fourth, they don't speak poorly of specific breeders. It's your right to choose.
Here is a link for more information and there are many more sites with information as well:
Hybrid Dog Breeds: What Does F1, F2, F3, F1b & F2b Mean? (breedingbusiness.com)
F2b & F3 Bordoodle Coat Descriptions
Silky Curly Coat A Bordoodle silky curly coat is what we consider to be spiral locks of hair, it is non shed and hypoallergenic for the F2b/F3 Bordoodle. It is not like the Poodle which has tight curls, this is loose and hangs down just like the picture of Raz black and white F2b Bordoodle located on the testimonials page, the closest explanation to this coat is it is similar to silky fine human hair. This coat requires grooming two or more times per year depending on length preference. This puppy will have what we call a doodle look. Billie and Minnie are also silky curly coat.
Soft Curly Coat
A Bordoodle soft curly coat is what we consider to be kinky spiral locks of hair, it is generally non shed and hypoallergenic for the F2b/F3 Bordoodle. Our closest explanation to this coat is it is similar to a cotton ball, and fluffy like cotton candy. This coat can either be groomed or left longer depending on preference and will require grooming at least twice a year. This puppy will have what we call the doodle look. Stevie is also a soft curly coat.
Silky Wavy Coat
A Bordoodle silky wavy coat is what we consider to be silky waves of hair that form swooping waves, not repetitive waves, it is non shed and hypoallergenic for the F2b/F3 Bordoodle. It is plush like a favorite silky teddy bear, the picture next to our name (logo) is Gemma she is black and white and has this luxurious coat. This coat requires grooming two or more times per year depending on length preference. This puppy will have what we call a doodle look. Mickey and Henley are also silky wavy coated as well as Denver and Piper on our testimonials page.
Soft Wavy Coat
A Bordoodle soft wavy coat is what we consider to be soft waves of hair, it is generally non shed and hypoallergenic for the F2b/F3 Bordoodle. Our closest explanation to this coat is it is also similar to soft wavy human hair, more repetitive waves. This coat can either be groomed or left longer depending on preference and will require grooming at least twice a year. This puppy will have what we call the doodle look. Holly has a soft wavy coat.
Silky Straight Coat
A Bordoodle silky straight coat is what we consider to be silky straight hair, it is generally non shed, these coats also have hypoallergenic potential for the F2b/F3 Bordoodle. The closest explanation to this coat is it is similar to the feel of a Border Collie's hair but silkier. This coat can either be groomed or left longer depending on preference and will require grooming at least twice a year. This puppy will have what we call the doodle look. Quinn on the testimonials page has a straight coat.